Discussion:
[BULK] Is there the slightest interest by CP in fixing the serious bugs within the view system/kernel at all?
Raju Bitter
2013-04-09 14:34:11 UTC
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The number of serious bugs with the view system, boxmodel, corner
radius. drop shadow, clipping of views, click masking of views is
concerning. I've never seen the OpenLaszlo platform in such a state in
the past 8 1/2 years.

Is there anyone within the management at CP aware of those bugs, and
are those bugs going to be addressed? If not, the platform will become
be unusable very soon.

- Raju
Steven Cho
2013-04-10 02:03:21 UTC
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When I subscribed the list I got this automated message from Laszlo
Systems (not CP!):

"The mailing lists are hosted by Laszlo Systems, but Laszlo Systems
employees participate in the lists as members of the community,
essentially on their own time and in the spirit of the collaborative
nature of any open source project. In particular, the lists are not an
official support mechanism and you should not expect an answer to any
particular question, from Laszlo Systems employees or anyone else."

Note this sentence: "In particular, the lists are not an official
support mechanism and you should not expect an answer to any
particular question, from Laszlo Systems employees or anyone else."

The welcome message needs to be updated, unless CP is trying to hide
the fact that OpenLaszlo is a Critical Path product right now. It
looks like the Critical Path Webtop system is a dead product. They try
to create a nice marketing message:
http://www.cp.net/index.php/news-2/280-news-radicati-top-player
"The Radicati Group names Critical Path ‘Top Player’ ... Messaging
platforms are robust, highly scalable, brandable, and localizable
offerings."

How robust and stable is your messaging platform if you don't maintain
one of the key platforms you are using for building highy-priced
products. Critical Path has a bad reputation anyway, haven't heard
anything good about the company from people in the Bay Area and people
working for one of the other companies they acquired. I wouldn't be
surprised if all former Laszlo employees have left the company by now.

Stevie
Raju Bitter
2013-04-10 13:05:05 UTC
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I think Webtop is still being used, not that I've heard of any new
customer announcements since Laszlo has been acquired. But that's
probably due to the zero marketing activity we have seen.

Laszlo used to have an active announcement mailing list, but that has
been dead since August 2010:
http://www.openlaszlo.org/pipermail/laszlo-announce/

Last announcement there was the 4.8.1 release. Laszlo/CP has been
doing development, although the number of commits is much lower than
it used to be. People kept telling me that Laszlo/CP is still fixing
bugs, but most of the features which have been added in the past 4
years have not been tested well or haven't received decent QA - due to
lack of community members testing the platform and lack of resources
on the Laszlo side.

- Raju

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